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		<title>By: ThinkTank</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThinkTank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys can really argue. But I can assure you all that with all your arguments;
1. If you are a Muslim and want to read the Holy Bible, you must first put away the years of Islamic indoctrination you received during your youth.
2. If you are a non-Muslim and want to read the Quran, you must first put away all the prejudice of judging your values to the Quran.
3. Argue to thy kingdom come and in the end, you all will come to a inconclusive answer. Why?

First, if you are a Muslim, you will just find the teaching of Trinity an utter blashpemy to the Oneness of God. The Church herself teaches that the Trinity is a mistery. What does mistery mean? Only God has the answer. It is God who wants to reveal Himself that way. The problem is, when the definition of God does not comply to your understanding, you quickly accuse that the Christians have corrupted their Scriptures. The same argument can be thrown to the Quran as well. Who can proof that the Quran is not corrupted during the process of its compilation since it was written almost 200 years after the death of the prophet?

Second, if one argues that the Allah of the Muslim is not the same God of the Jews and the Christians, then the Moses, Jesus (Isa) and other prophets in the Quran must not be the same persons mentioned in the Scriptures of the Christians and the Jews? They are different individuals? sigh!!!!

The prophet Muhammad&#039;s father&#039;s name is Abdullah which is an acronymn of abd (slave)+ Allah = slave of Allah. To put it logically, Allah should have been worshiped way back even before the time of Muhammad was born.When he was called to his mission, why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?

Arabic and Aramaic and Hebrew are sister langauge. God in Hebrew is Eloh, Elaha in Aramaic and the old Arabic it was pronounced as Illah. Soon, the word evolved through time and it has been pronounce as Allah since.

What is interesting is that why is there so much animosity when Christians use the word Allah in translating the word God / Eloh in Bahasa Malaysia? If one were to translate the Quran to other langauges, wouldn&#039;t the translators face the same problem? It is not a theological problem all together of which the Home Ministry has made it to look like one. It is a linguistic problem, that&#039;s all.

To put it plainly, many words in Bahasa Malaysia are taken directly from other languages as well i.e.

Maha, raja, sakti, cakera and many others are taken from Sanskrit
camera, bank, computer, dansa and almost 20,000 other English words are also directly made as part of the vocabulary of BM!!! A recent reseach pointed out that there are only 4 original Malay words and one of which is &#039;babi&#039;!!!

If England, India, China and other countries were to tell Malaysia that it is illegal for BM to take in foreign words into her vocabulary, wouldn&#039;t these made them look stupid?

So, the fools in JAKIM and Home Ministry, please stop poisoning the minds of innocent Malaysians. They talk so much about God but do they TALK TO GOD???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys can really argue. But I can assure you all that with all your arguments;<br />
1. If you are a Muslim and want to read the Holy Bible, you must first put away the years of Islamic indoctrination you received during your youth.<br />
2. If you are a non-Muslim and want to read the Quran, you must first put away all the prejudice of judging your values to the Quran.<br />
3. Argue to thy kingdom come and in the end, you all will come to a inconclusive answer. Why?</p>
<p>First, if you are a Muslim, you will just find the teaching of Trinity an utter blashpemy to the Oneness of God. The Church herself teaches that the Trinity is a mistery. What does mistery mean? Only God has the answer. It is God who wants to reveal Himself that way. The problem is, when the definition of God does not comply to your understanding, you quickly accuse that the Christians have corrupted their Scriptures. The same argument can be thrown to the Quran as well. Who can proof that the Quran is not corrupted during the process of its compilation since it was written almost 200 years after the death of the prophet?</p>
<p>Second, if one argues that the Allah of the Muslim is not the same God of the Jews and the Christians, then the Moses, Jesus (Isa) and other prophets in the Quran must not be the same persons mentioned in the Scriptures of the Christians and the Jews? They are different individuals? sigh!!!!</p>
<p>The prophet Muhammad&#8217;s father&#8217;s name is Abdullah which is an acronymn of abd (slave)+ Allah = slave of Allah. To put it logically, Allah should have been worshiped way back even before the time of Muhammad was born.When he was called to his mission, why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?</p>
<p>Arabic and Aramaic and Hebrew are sister langauge. God in Hebrew is Eloh, Elaha in Aramaic and the old Arabic it was pronounced as Illah. Soon, the word evolved through time and it has been pronounce as Allah since.</p>
<p>What is interesting is that why is there so much animosity when Christians use the word Allah in translating the word God / Eloh in Bahasa Malaysia? If one were to translate the Quran to other langauges, wouldn&#8217;t the translators face the same problem? It is not a theological problem all together of which the Home Ministry has made it to look like one. It is a linguistic problem, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>To put it plainly, many words in Bahasa Malaysia are taken directly from other languages as well i.e.</p>
<p>Maha, raja, sakti, cakera and many others are taken from Sanskrit<br />
camera, bank, computer, dansa and almost 20,000 other English words are also directly made as part of the vocabulary of BM!!! A recent reseach pointed out that there are only 4 original Malay words and one of which is &#8216;babi&#8217;!!!</p>
<p>If England, India, China and other countries were to tell Malaysia that it is illegal for BM to take in foreign words into her vocabulary, wouldn&#8217;t these made them look stupid?</p>
<p>So, the fools in JAKIM and Home Ministry, please stop poisoning the minds of innocent Malaysians. They talk so much about God but do they TALK TO GOD???</p>
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		<title>By: Pak padil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pak padil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like u all ..all very intelligent and religious..and hope u all pray everday ye..

salam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like u all ..all very intelligent and religious..and hope u all pray everday ye..</p>
<p>salam</p>
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		<title>By: hoshiyo higashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoshiyo higashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamualaikum dan selamat sejahtera...

hmm..,wahai manusia2 yg BERIMAN..,MENGUCAPLAH DUA KALIMAH SHAHADAH..PERTEGUHKAN KEIMANAN KITA AGAR TIDAK TERGOLONG DALAM GOLONGAN ORANG2 YANG RUGI...JAGA HATI DAN AKIDAHMU...biarlah apapun mereka ingin lakukan...mereka juga seperti kita...KETAHUILAH..,ALLAH TAA&#039;LA MAHA MENGETAHUI AKAN SEGALA YANG TERJADI...TUNGGULAH hari kiamat nanti..,akan diketahui yang mana AGAMA YANG BENAR DENGAN SEBENAR-BENARNYA...Sesungguhnya..,telah tertulis bahawa mereka ini memang bangsa-bangsa yang degil...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamualaikum dan selamat sejahtera&#8230;</p>
<p>hmm..,wahai manusia2 yg BERIMAN..,MENGUCAPLAH DUA KALIMAH SHAHADAH..PERTEGUHKAN KEIMANAN KITA AGAR TIDAK TERGOLONG DALAM GOLONGAN ORANG2 YANG RUGI&#8230;JAGA HATI DAN AKIDAHMU&#8230;biarlah apapun mereka ingin lakukan&#8230;mereka juga seperti kita&#8230;KETAHUILAH..,ALLAH TAA&#8217;LA MAHA MENGETAHUI AKAN SEGALA YANG TERJADI&#8230;TUNGGULAH hari kiamat nanti..,akan diketahui yang mana AGAMA YANG BENAR DENGAN SEBENAR-BENARNYA&#8230;Sesungguhnya..,telah tertulis bahawa mereka ini memang bangsa-bangsa yang degil&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hariz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hariz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saudara leonard,
memang benar tak ada perlu diperdebatkan sebab benda dah terang, cuma persoalannya kenapa masih nak berkeras pakai nama Allah? Elohim kan ada dan maksudpun sama....kenapa x nak guna bahasa Jesus yang asal tapi berkeras nak pakai bahasa Arab?

Jika saudara nak persoal tentang perkara2 berkenaan dalam islam... baik saudara baca Bible dari awal hingga akhir dan faham sendiri. kalau saya pin point mana satu Tuhan arahkan pembunuhan kanak dan bayi dalam bible, tentang poligami dalam bible dan dimana Jesus mahu membunuh mereka yang enggan percaya padanya sehingga kelihatan seperti saya menmghina agama saudara...adalah elok saudara baca sendiri kitab suci saudara semula dari awal hingga akhir. dan bukan sekerat dan pilih yang elok sahaja.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saudara leonard,<br />
memang benar tak ada perlu diperdebatkan sebab benda dah terang, cuma persoalannya kenapa masih nak berkeras pakai nama Allah? Elohim kan ada dan maksudpun sama&#8230;.kenapa x nak guna bahasa Jesus yang asal tapi berkeras nak pakai bahasa Arab?</p>
<p>Jika saudara nak persoal tentang perkara2 berkenaan dalam islam&#8230; baik saudara baca Bible dari awal hingga akhir dan faham sendiri. kalau saya pin point mana satu Tuhan arahkan pembunuhan kanak dan bayi dalam bible, tentang poligami dalam bible dan dimana Jesus mahu membunuh mereka yang enggan percaya padanya sehingga kelihatan seperti saya menmghina agama saudara&#8230;adalah elok saudara baca sendiri kitab suci saudara semula dari awal hingga akhir. dan bukan sekerat dan pilih yang elok sahaja.</p>
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		<title>By: to everybody</title>
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		<dc:creator>to everybody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kenape perlu bertekak hanya untuk memuaskan hati?
bukankah lebih aman jika hanya christian menggunakan my lord atau the lord.n to muslim teruskan dgn penggunaan allah. 
tuhan adalah sesuatu yg umum kerana kita berbilang bangsa.
conclusion bnyk bende lain yg bole kita buat.
pendapat? bnyk pendapat lain bole diutarakan..

conclusion jgn confusekan christian atau muslim.christian teruskan penggunaan my lord n muslim allah.jgn jadkan bende kecil seperti isu yg besar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kenape perlu bertekak hanya untuk memuaskan hati?<br />
bukankah lebih aman jika hanya christian menggunakan my lord atau the lord.n to muslim teruskan dgn penggunaan allah.<br />
tuhan adalah sesuatu yg umum kerana kita berbilang bangsa.<br />
conclusion bnyk bende lain yg bole kita buat.<br />
pendapat? bnyk pendapat lain bole diutarakan..</p>
<p>conclusion jgn confusekan christian atau muslim.christian teruskan penggunaan my lord n muslim allah.jgn jadkan bende kecil seperti isu yg besar.</p>
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