<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Dr Khir Toyo&#8217;s comments on the &#8220;Allah issue&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.christian-journey.com/dr-khir-toyos-comments-on-the-allah-issue/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.christian-journey.com/dr-khir-toyos-comments-on-the-allah-issue/</link>
	<description>Catholic Christian inner thoughts</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:29:21 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: arah</title>
		<link>http://www.christian-journey.com/dr-khir-toyos-comments-on-the-allah-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-2231</link>
		<dc:creator>arah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.christian-journey.com/?p=169#comment-2231</guid>
		<description>Jesus only taught in the bible that there is only One God, the Almighty Creator. Can anyone prove otherwise?

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, &quot;Of all the commandments, which is the most important?&quot; &quot;The most important one,&quot; answered Jesus, &quot;is this: &#039;Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.&#039; The second is this: &#039;Love your neighbor as yourself.&#039; There is no commandment greater than these.&quot; (NIV, Mark 12:28-31).

Jesus never taught anything about Trinity. The teaching of Jesus is inline with the Quran. We Muslim called the believe in One God as Akidah and all the Prophets of Israel believe in One God including Jesus.

To believe that Jesus is God is a blasphemy and the Quran is very clear on this.Allah says in verses 72 to 75 of Surah Al-Maeda (the 5th chapter of the Holy Qur&#039;an):

Certainly they do blaspheme who say: &quot;Allah is Christ the son of Mary.&quot; But said Christ: &quot;O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.&quot; Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the paradise, and the Fire will be his abode. For evil-doers there will be no one to help. [The Holy Qur&#039;an, Surah 5:72]


Certainly they do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of the three in a Trinity. There is no god except Allah alone. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous chastisement shall befall the blasphemers among them. [The Holy Qur&#039;an, Surah 5:73]


Why they not rather turn to Allah and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful. [The Holy Qur&#039;an, Surah 5:74]

Allah knows best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus only taught in the bible that there is only One God, the Almighty Creator. Can anyone prove otherwise?</p>
<p>One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, &#8220;Of all the commandments, which is the most important?&#8221; &#8220;The most important one,&#8221; answered Jesus, &#8220;is this: &#8216;Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.&#8217; The second is this: &#8216;Love your neighbor as yourself.&#8217; There is no commandment greater than these.&#8221; (NIV, Mark 12:28-31).</p>
<p>Jesus never taught anything about Trinity. The teaching of Jesus is inline with the Quran. We Muslim called the believe in One God as Akidah and all the Prophets of Israel believe in One God including Jesus.</p>
<p>To believe that Jesus is God is a blasphemy and the Quran is very clear on this.Allah says in verses 72 to 75 of Surah Al-Maeda (the 5th chapter of the Holy Qur&#8217;an):</p>
<p>Certainly they do blaspheme who say: &#8220;Allah is Christ the son of Mary.&#8221; But said Christ: &#8220;O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.&#8221; Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the paradise, and the Fire will be his abode. For evil-doers there will be no one to help. [The Holy Qur'an, Surah 5:72]</p>
<p>Certainly they do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of the three in a Trinity. There is no god except Allah alone. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous chastisement shall befall the blasphemers among them. [The Holy Qur'an, Surah 5:73]</p>
<p>Why they not rather turn to Allah and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful. [The Holy Qur'an, Surah 5:74]</p>
<p>Allah knows best</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: deepo</title>
		<link>http://www.christian-journey.com/dr-khir-toyos-comments-on-the-allah-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1677</link>
		<dc:creator>deepo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.christian-journey.com/?p=169#comment-1677</guid>
		<description>emm....org mcm mat indon (dr khir) tu la yg slalu menybabkan agama lain memandang serong terhadap catholic.

does he think whatever the christian doing is to convert their children? i dunno about other denomination...but i believe catholic church doesn&#039;t simply convert some1....to believe or not is up to the person. if he or she wanted to convert, we are welcome them.

but to accuse some1 blindly is very insensitive to others.

just like the case of christian missionaries schools. many christian missionaries schools lost their tradition bcoz had to follow the UMNO tradition. some suggested the school must not put their cross.

does thiese stupid MPs understand wht is the purpose of christian missionaries schools? who are the founder...all the founders mostly are priest/brothers/nuns from catholic church. their aim of course to spread the gospels, but also to fulfilled the church social teachings.


if they are really afraid their children become christian, dun send ur children to chrisitian missionaries school. send them to sekolah agama...finish.

do not accuse others just bcoz ur own fault. ur own fault bcoz can&#039;t teach ur own children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>emm&#8230;.org mcm mat indon (dr khir) tu la yg slalu menybabkan agama lain memandang serong terhadap catholic.</p>
<p>does he think whatever the christian doing is to convert their children? i dunno about other denomination&#8230;but i believe catholic church doesn&#8217;t simply convert some1&#8230;.to believe or not is up to the person. if he or she wanted to convert, we are welcome them.</p>
<p>but to accuse some1 blindly is very insensitive to others.</p>
<p>just like the case of christian missionaries schools. many christian missionaries schools lost their tradition bcoz had to follow the UMNO tradition. some suggested the school must not put their cross.</p>
<p>does thiese stupid MPs understand wht is the purpose of christian missionaries schools? who are the founder&#8230;all the founders mostly are priest/brothers/nuns from catholic church. their aim of course to spread the gospels, but also to fulfilled the church social teachings.</p>
<p>if they are really afraid their children become christian, dun send ur children to chrisitian missionaries school. send them to sekolah agama&#8230;finish.</p>
<p>do not accuse others just bcoz ur own fault. ur own fault bcoz can&#8217;t teach ur own children.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Police report made by PAS against Khir Toyo - Malaysiakini &#124; The Obnoxious 5xmom</title>
		<link>http://www.christian-journey.com/dr-khir-toyos-comments-on-the-allah-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Police report made by PAS against Khir Toyo - Malaysiakini &#124; The Obnoxious 5xmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.christian-journey.com/?p=169#comment-1281</guid>
		<description>[...] previous post on Khir Toyo here and my post on Khir Toyo fondness of stoking racial and religious unease [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] previous post on Khir Toyo here and my post on Khir Toyo fondness of stoking racial and religious unease [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://www.christian-journey.com/dr-khir-toyos-comments-on-the-allah-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.christian-journey.com/?p=169#comment-765</guid>
		<description>to Jacknaim 
This is a personal blog of catholic and not protestant....... I&#039;m a catholic and so far as I know my church been using &quot; Allah &quot; word in Bahasa Malaysia long time before I was been born....... If you really want to know, try to go to a catholic church during Bahasa Malaysia mass or activities and you see that we catholic using &quot;Allah&quot; word as our God... Protestant and catholic have their own unique ways of praying but our believe are the same, which means that Jesus Christ are our saviour and the Son of God</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Jacknaim<br />
This is a personal blog of catholic and not protestant&#8230;&#8230;. I&#8217;m a catholic and so far as I know my church been using &#8221; Allah &#8221; word in Bahasa Malaysia long time before I was been born&#8230;&#8230;. If you really want to know, try to go to a catholic church during Bahasa Malaysia mass or activities and you see that we catholic using &#8220;Allah&#8221; word as our God&#8230; Protestant and catholic have their own unique ways of praying but our believe are the same, which means that Jesus Christ are our saviour and the Son of God</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: 2mucheat</title>
		<link>http://www.christian-journey.com/dr-khir-toyos-comments-on-the-allah-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>2mucheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.christian-journey.com/?p=169#comment-737</guid>
		<description>Umumnya, kata “Allah” ialah kata singkatan dalam bahasa Arab bagi kata Al-ilah, yang bererti “Tuhan”. Baik orang Kristian Arab ataupun pada zaman sebelum Islam (zaman jahilliah), penyembah berhala juga menggunakan kata Ilah untuk Tuhan. Al-Kitab bahasa Arab dan bahasa Indonesia MASA KINI juga menggunakan kata “Allah“ untuk Tuhan.  Penterjemahan Alkitab dari bahasa Ibrani dan bahasa yunani dipengaruhi oleh dari negara jiran dan bukannya diterjemah dari versi bahasa enggeris dalam tahun 1970an. 

Ini merupakan satu mainan politik untuk mendapat sokongan yang banyak dengan taruhan yang besar dan amat bahaya iaitu mempertaruhkan nama “Allah” bagi memancing para ulama serta mana-mana persatuan agama islam dalam negara ke kancah politik kotor serta membangkitkan kemarahan orang islam itu sendiri.  

Pada era 70an negara kita mengalami keadaan ekonomi yang meleset dan kejatuhan harga getah yg ketara, segelintir pemimpin yang sanggup untuk memimpin tunjuk perasaan anti-kemiskinan agar kerajaan dapat membasmi kemiskinan. Tahun 2008 ayat yang sama digunakan lagi “pembasmi kemiskinan”, dalam tahun yang sama juga harga minyak naik… rujuk Buletin Utama TV3 03 Jun 2008 bergitu juga dengan harga barang lain terutamanya beras harga pun dah naik, ini merupakan satu penindasan dan boleh dikatakan ugutan, adakah pembasmi kemiskinan itu benar? Ataupun pembasmian agama kristian keseluruahannya?? Ataupun hanya untuk kekayaan bagi satu pihak sahaja?? Kemungkinan besar semuanya boleh terjadi….  Sifat manusia memang semula jadi tidak mahu untuk menderita sengsara, semua inginkan selamat, semua inginkan kesenangan… LALAI disebabkan dunia.

[ Dari artikel di atas &gt;&gt;  kenapa tidak memeluk Agama Islam? ] Kerana Zaman Jepun adalah sesuai untuk rakyat Malaysia, pasti bersatu padu… Lebih baik makan ubi kayu, Itu adalah Asli Jati Rakyat Malaysia.
 
Setiap agama di dunia ini merujuk pada perkara dan perbuatan yang baik, dan setiap manusia berpeluang untuk menganuti mana-mana agama dalam dunia ini tanpa paksaan dan ugutan.  Tetapi sesetengah manusia masih lagi mempertikaikan agama ataupun bangsa lain, adakah ini caranya, etika ataupun erti kata kita beragama?? 
Biarkan lah manusia itu sendiri yang akan menentukan nasib mereka untuk ke Distinasi seterusnya, ke dunia??, ke n e r a k a?? Ke Syurga??? Ke perigi????...  terpulanglah pada amalan di dunia ataupun kehendak seseorang tetapi janganlah jadi pembunuh!!

Persoalannya sekarang Di manakah letaknya erti kedamaian? Perlukah kita hiasi akhir zaman kita dengan tumpahan darah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umumnya, kata “Allah” ialah kata singkatan dalam bahasa Arab bagi kata Al-ilah, yang bererti “Tuhan”. Baik orang Kristian Arab ataupun pada zaman sebelum Islam (zaman jahilliah), penyembah berhala juga menggunakan kata Ilah untuk Tuhan. Al-Kitab bahasa Arab dan bahasa Indonesia MASA KINI juga menggunakan kata “Allah“ untuk Tuhan.  Penterjemahan Alkitab dari bahasa Ibrani dan bahasa yunani dipengaruhi oleh dari negara jiran dan bukannya diterjemah dari versi bahasa enggeris dalam tahun 1970an. </p>
<p>Ini merupakan satu mainan politik untuk mendapat sokongan yang banyak dengan taruhan yang besar dan amat bahaya iaitu mempertaruhkan nama “Allah” bagi memancing para ulama serta mana-mana persatuan agama islam dalam negara ke kancah politik kotor serta membangkitkan kemarahan orang islam itu sendiri.  </p>
<p>Pada era 70an negara kita mengalami keadaan ekonomi yang meleset dan kejatuhan harga getah yg ketara, segelintir pemimpin yang sanggup untuk memimpin tunjuk perasaan anti-kemiskinan agar kerajaan dapat membasmi kemiskinan. Tahun 2008 ayat yang sama digunakan lagi “pembasmi kemiskinan”, dalam tahun yang sama juga harga minyak naik… rujuk Buletin Utama TV3 03 Jun 2008 bergitu juga dengan harga barang lain terutamanya beras harga pun dah naik, ini merupakan satu penindasan dan boleh dikatakan ugutan, adakah pembasmi kemiskinan itu benar? Ataupun pembasmian agama kristian keseluruahannya?? Ataupun hanya untuk kekayaan bagi satu pihak sahaja?? Kemungkinan besar semuanya boleh terjadi….  Sifat manusia memang semula jadi tidak mahu untuk menderita sengsara, semua inginkan selamat, semua inginkan kesenangan… LALAI disebabkan dunia.</p>
<p>[ Dari artikel di atas &gt;&gt;  kenapa tidak memeluk Agama Islam? ] Kerana Zaman Jepun adalah sesuai untuk rakyat Malaysia, pasti bersatu padu… Lebih baik makan ubi kayu, Itu adalah Asli Jati Rakyat Malaysia.</p>
<p>Setiap agama di dunia ini merujuk pada perkara dan perbuatan yang baik, dan setiap manusia berpeluang untuk menganuti mana-mana agama dalam dunia ini tanpa paksaan dan ugutan.  Tetapi sesetengah manusia masih lagi mempertikaikan agama ataupun bangsa lain, adakah ini caranya, etika ataupun erti kata kita beragama??<br />
Biarkan lah manusia itu sendiri yang akan menentukan nasib mereka untuk ke Distinasi seterusnya, ke dunia??, ke n e r a k a?? Ke Syurga??? Ke perigi????&#8230;  terpulanglah pada amalan di dunia ataupun kehendak seseorang tetapi janganlah jadi pembunuh!!</p>
<p>Persoalannya sekarang Di manakah letaknya erti kedamaian? Perlukah kita hiasi akhir zaman kita dengan tumpahan darah?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
