I have read about the ‘fake’ Bible being sold. I also read from The Herald that earlier, some parties have sold the Gospel of Barnabas at some book fair. Of course, these people are not from the Christian faith and I do not wish to mention which faith they are from.
I personally find this a rather low-down way of trying to undermine other faiths. It is a distasteful way of trying to confuse their own followers. This is not a nice way to promote their own religion.
Come on, if your faith is good, say it is good but don’t try to attack other religions. What more twisting our Christian Holy Book?
Today, Malaysiakini also published the news published by The Herald. You can read The Herald’s version over here. And the Malaysiakini’s version over here.
I just wonder…..what if some Christian group has done similar thing to this other faith? I bet they would be stuffed into ISA before the books get distributed, isn’t it? This is not the first time I have heard or seen Christianity being twisted. I have personally seen books sold at the Petronas petrol station in Seberang Jaya where these books masked as some reliable books on Christianity printed in Bahasa Malaysia. On closer look, I found that the end is totally crap. Unfortunately, many believed the contents and had insisted in my blog comments that my Lord is not dead on the cross bla bla bla yadda yadda yadda. Like doh…
I only have this to say, “Bang, musuh kita bukan sesama umat-umat kita kerana kita percaya kepada Satu Tuhan. Musuh kita iaalah setan, bukan Tuhan.”
April 26th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
“I just wonder…..what if some Christian group has done similar thing to this other faith?”
first, big hoohaas nationwide. then followed by strings of death threats, and get beheaded if you’re that unlucky. *sigh*
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:06 am
My dear Lilian
Which one is the true Gospel written by Jesus?
Gospel of Barnabas is fake?
How about the other Gospels?
Let refer to the following
http://www.witness-pioneer.org.....ources.htm
The Four Gospels Sources and History
In the writings that come from the early stages of Christianity, the Gospels are not mentioned until long after the works of Paul. It was not until the middle of the Second century A.D., after 140 A.D. to be precise, that accounts began to appear concerning a collection of Evangelic writings, In spite of this, “from the beginning of the Second century A.D., many Christian authors clearly intimate that they knew a. great many of Paul’s letters.” These observations are set out in the Introduction to the Ecumenical Translation of the Bible, New Testament (Introduction à la Traduction oecuménique de la Bible, Nouveau Testament) edited 1972 [ Pub. Editions du Cerf et Les Bergers et les Mages, Paris.]. They are worth mentioning from the outset, and it is useful to point out here that the work referred to is the result of a collective effort which brought together more than one hundred Catholic and Protestant specialists.
The Gospels, later to become official, i.e. canonic, did not become known until fairly late, even though they were completed at the beginning of the Second century A.D. According to the Ecumenical Translation, stories belonging to them began to be quoted around the middle of the Second century A.D. Nevertheless, “it is nearly always difficult to decide whether the quotations come from written texts that the authors had next to them or if the latter were content to evoke the memory of fragments of the oral tradition.”
“Before 140 A.D.” we read in the commentaries this translation of the Bible contains, “there was, in any case, no account by which one might have recognised a collection of evangelic writings”. This statement is the opposite of what A. Tricot writes (1960) in the commentary to his translation of the New Testament: “Very early on, from the beginning of the Second century A.D., it became a habit to say “Gospel’ meaning the books that Saint Justin around 150 A.D. had also called “The Memoirs of the Apostles’.” Unfortunately, assertions of this kind are sufficiently common for the public to have ideas on the date of the Gospels which are mistaken.
The Gospels did not form a complete whole ‘very early on’; it did not happen until more than a century after the end of Jesus’s mission. The Ecumenical Translation of the Bible estimates the date the four Gospels acquired the status of canonic literature at around 170 A.D.
Justin’s statement which calls the authors ‘Apostles’ is not acceptable either, as we shall see.
As far as the date the Gospels were written is concerned, A. Tricot states that Matthew’s, Mark’s and Luke’s Gospels were written before 70 A.D.: but this is not acceptable, except perhaps for Mark. Following many others, this commentator goes out of his way to present the authors of the Gospels as the apostles or the companions of Jesus. For this reason he suggests dates of writing that place them very near to the time Jesus lived. As for John, whom A. Tricot has us believe lived until roughly 100 A.D., Christians have always been used to seeing him depicted as being very near to Jesus on ceremonial occasions. It is very difficult however to assert that he is the author of the Gospel that bears his name. For A. Tricot, as for other commentators, the Apostle John (like Matthew) was the officially qualified witness of the facts he recounts, although the majority of critics do not support the hypothesis which says he wrote the fourth Gospel.
If however the four Gospels in question cannot reasonably be regarded as the ‘Memoirs’ of the apostles or companions of Jesus, where do they come from?
Culmann, in his book The New Testament (Le Nouveau Testament) [ Pub. Presses Universitaires de France, Paris, 1967], says of this that the evangelists were only the “spokesmen of the early Christian community which wrote down the oral tradition. For thirty or forty years, the Gospel had existed as an almost exclusively oral tradition: the latter only transmitted sayings and isolated narratives. The evangelists strung them together, each in his own way according to his own character and theological preoccupations. They linked up the narrations and sayings handed down by the prevailing tradition. The grouping of Jesus’s sayings and likewise the sequence of narratives is made by the use of fairly vague linking phrases such as ‘after this’, ‘when he had’ etc. In other words, the ‘framework’ of the Synoptic Gospels [ The three Gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke.] is of a purely literary order and is not based on history.”
The same author continues as follows:
“It must be noted that the needs of preaching, worship and teaching, more than biographical considerations, were what guided the early community when it wrote down the tradition of the life of Jesus. The apostles illustrated the truth of the faith they were preaching by describing the events in the life of Jesus. Their sermons are what caused the descriptions to be written down. The sayings of Jesus were transmitted, in particular, in the teaching of the catechism of the early Church.”
Cheers
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
arah – I got better things to do than to read what you posted. You are wasting my webhosting disk space pasting things you picked from the internet.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Why waste your time reading, let follow something blindly without asking or comparing may be you will find the truth.
English (Yusuf Ali): (Recite)
5:17 In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every – one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things.”
Good Luck
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 am
arah – If that’s what your religion taught you, then, so be it. Peace be with you.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:16 am
aarh- your Quran conirms the Gospel.
St. Paul mentioned Scripture[Gospel] in his Epistles.
1 Corinthians 15
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
Paul live, ca 5 – 67 AD. So the Gospels that we have today actually existed before 67AD.
Christians never say that God is Jesus but rather Jesus is GOD. GOD is one substance having revealed Himself to us in ways he sees fit.